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Hot or Not?   Bare Knuckle Irish Tours

• Thread starter MonkeyZero
• Start date May 9, 2013

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• May 9, 2013

Bare Knuckle pickups Anyone have any experience with these pickups? I've been watching videos all night and I like them a lot. Found a set for $250. Can they be had cheaper? Thoughts? Comparisons? Alternatives?  

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I don't know if you can find them for less. But I can sell you a set of Porter Handwound Classics for $125 shipped. People on TGP seem to like them. Check out the YT videos. They represent the sound of those pickups very well.  

PunkKitty said: I don't know if you can find them for less. But I can sell you a set of Porter Handwound Classics for $125 shipped. People on TGP seem to like them. Check out the YT videos. They represent the sound of those pickups very well. Click to expand...

No. I thought you were looking for humbuckers.  

PunkKitty said: No. I thought you were looking for humbuckers. Click to expand...

• May 10, 2013

Semi bump. I'm actually more interested in the Mothers Milk set now. Same questions as before. I'm looking for a really across the board set.  

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I know Kerouac is a fan of their stuff.  

reverend1 said: I know Kerouac is a fan of their stuff. Click to expand...

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I've never played a set, but I know a guy who has them in all of his guitars. They sound great when he plays them. Then again, a fucking concrete block with some strings taped to it would probably sound great played by him. I wouldn't count on finding them any cheaper though.  

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Ghoulish anomaly.

Seems like too much money. I hear their great, but $70+ over other killer sets? I dunno about that.  

Grave Bomber said: Seems like too much money. I hear their great, but $70+ over other killer sets? I dunno about that. Click to expand...

The Dimarzio area series are fantastic as you can get if you're looking for silent singles, and the Duncan antiquity series kicks ass too.  

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MonkeyZero said: They all sound good but I'm hesitant to judge by a sound clip. I need his input! I like the Apaches too. Click to expand...

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I don't have any prior experience with their humbucker pups, but the single coils are great!  

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• May 12, 2013

vintage clubber said: I have a hard time paying that kind of money for a set of strat pickups, considering I can get a set from Rose Pickups for $60... Click to expand...

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Hot like yo' valves.

• May 13, 2013

I've got a set of Bareknuckle 'Mississippi Queen' P90s in my SG and they are a cut above. Very, very responsive pickups - the sound changes dramatically with the tiniest tweak of the tone/volume pots - makes them incredibly versatile (but also quite hard to use!) I like the Irish Tours - my friend has them in his Strat and I've done a direct comparison with the Texas Specials in mine - quite similar in terms of output (I think the BKs might be a bit hotter). If you're looking for a set of hot Strat pickups you can't go too wrong with the Irish Tours. They are expensive but so are Fralins, Lollar, Suhr etc. If you want something a bit cheaper then the Fender Texas Specials would be a good bet. Word of warning - they won't quite do the vintage Strat sound - but if you're going for an overwound set and not too bothered then I recommend them.  

MonkeyZero said: I'm sorry, but there is a notable difference between a $60 Rose set and the Irish tours. I'm not saying the $60 Rose pickups are bad, but let's stick with apples to apples here. Now the Rose Belle at $110 a set, those sound fantastic and would be closer to comparable, but you also need to weigh in the guitar they go in to. I've moved on from the Irish Tours as I don't want all that Texas sound. The Apaches and the Mother's Milk are more the sound I'm looking for which is why I bring up the Rose Belle. More similar. Click to expand...

Just to rile this up a bit, how could one say comparing apples to apples when one has not tested either set? That's kinda playing into exactly what Bare Knuckle has set up, charging a premium price to instill a premium customer base. As I said, i've heard nothing but good things about Bare Knuckle pups, but it all comes back to that "boutique" thing we had a thread about, if you spend that kinda money on something that is "boutique", you have expectations in that product. You'll most likely automatically think them amazing because you threw down $250 for some wire and magnets, when there is the strong possibility that a full set that costs $150 or less would be absolutely equaled if you blindly A/B'd them.  

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Fender Texas Specials, Analysis and Review

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• Start date Jul 29, 2016

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• Jul 29, 2016

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Lol - how has this thread been ignored by He-who-must-not-be-named ?  

Raul_H said: Awesome analysis! I know that it's a quite old thread but still useful. By any chance, won't you know the pole pieces spread size of these pickups? Is the same for all three? I'm not able to find it anywhere. Or maybe someone who has them and can measure them? Thanks! Click to expand...

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Strat-talker.

Antigue, What software program or spectrum analyzer are you using to connect the guitar pickup to the dBv to frequency chart plots? I'm not sure why the loaded is 200K and 470pf, what is the 200K? I'm guessing the 470pf is the 10ft guitar cable? How are these texas specials different compared to Seymour Duncans Texas pickups and fenders tex mex Can you make a dBv to frequency plot comparing those pickups against on one graph plot When pickup companies age the Alnico magnets to be like vintage aged magnets the gauss level is lower and the magnet field is smaller and weak. What does this do to the frequency response? or its just lower in dBm levels? Seymore Duncan makes a pickup Antiquity II SURF which I don't think you have done an analysis on. But I'm curious to know what makes a pickups frequency response have a surf sound compared to a stock normal alnico strat pickups or a stock ceramic strat pickup  

• May 4, 2020

bluejazzoid said: Lol - how has this thread been ignored by He-who-must-not-be-named ? Click to expand...

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• Aug 10, 2022

This is Middle from 90s with 3.8 H inductance  

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Best Bare Knuckle Guitar Pickups: A Buyer’s Guide

Bare Knuckle are well known for making top quality electric and bass guitar pickups. Their range is pretty large, so it can be hard to choose the right ones for your guitar. In this article, I’ll take you through the full range of humbuckers, single coils, P90s and bass guitar pickups available, so by the end of the article, you’ll have a much better idea of which ones are most suitable for you.

At a Glance

Bare Knuckle make passive humbucker, single coil and P90 pickups for electric guitar. They also have a bass guitar pickup range. They have a diverse selection of output levels and voicings to suit every music style from country to thrash metal, and use alnico and ceramic magnets.

Deciding on the Type

Before we talk about specific models in the range, I think it’s good to have an idea about whether you’re looking for single coil, P90 or humbucker pickups . Bare Knuckle made a pretty large range, and the easiest way to split it down is to categorise them into the main pickup types.

You may already be clear on what you want, but if you want some help choosing between the different pickup types, then check out my  ultimate guide to pickups  to take you through the advantages and disadvantages of each.

Also if you have a defined style of music and want to achieve a specific tone, then it’s easier to narrow down the options within the Bare Knuckle range. If you’re looking for something more versatile, then a couple of things to consider, are the magnet type and output.

The output refers to the power of the pickup, and high-output pickups are best suited to heavy styles of music such as metal. Lower output pickups are often referred to as “vintage”.

There are two main types of magnets used in Bare Knuckle pickups: alnico and ceramic. Here’s the difference:

• Alnico: these have a large dynamic range and sound a bit fuller and warmer. They are considered very versatile and suit a wide range of music styles.
• Ceramic: these have the highest output and more treble to give them a crisp tone. Ceramic pickups are often associated with modern metal, as they are able to produce a powerful sound whilst maintaining excellent clarity when using distortion.

Here’s a link to my comparison between alnico and ceramic magnets for more info.

To further complicate things, there are multiple types of alnico:

• Alnico II: these are fairly weak and produce a “vintage” tone with more mid-range. The lows are quite loose, instead of being tight, causing it to sound smooth.
• Alnico III: this is the weakest type of alnico and has very loose bass frequencies, a full mid-range and glassy highs. The effect is a vintage, smooth tone.
• Alnico IV: this is stronger than alnico II and III, but weaker than alnico IV. It has a very balanced EQ and tighter bass and treble than alnico II.
• Alnico V: this is the strongest type of alnico and produces the brightest tone.

Check out my comparison between the different types of alnico magnets to learn more.

As well as the output, pay attention to the EQ balance. This means the balance of the bass, mids and treble frequencies. Here are some examples of common EQ compositions:

• Scooped mids: low mid-range in comparison to the bass and treble. This produces a thinner sound however is popular when palm muting and was used frequently in the ’80s and ’90s metal scene.
• Boosted mids: this helps the sound of the guitar to cut through the mix and is popular amongst lead guitarists.
• Boosted treble: this will provide more brightness and clarity and is popular amongst lead guitarists. The opposite, produces a more mellow tone which is common for rhythm playing.
• Boosted bass: this produces a “boomy”, heavy and dark tone. On the other hand “tight bass” produces a more focused tone, which is popular in modern metal and helpful for detuned guitars.

What does all this mean then? Well, a lot of it is personal preference, but some guitars benefit from different EQ balances as well. Here are some main points to consider:

• Bolt-on neck and double cutaway guitars usually benefit from more mid-range focused pickups
• Drop-tuned guitars usually benefit from a tighter bass
• Heavy and single cutaway guitars may benefit from slightly scooped mids and boosted treble to brighten the tone

Now we’ve been through some basics, let’s have a look at the Bare Knuckle range. I’ve split this article into the following sections from here, so you can get to grips with the pickup type you’re most interested in, or have a browse of them all.

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Bass Guitar Pickups

Bare Knuckle primarily specialise in passive humbucker pickups and make an extensive range to suit different music styles. Pretty much every model is available in 6, 7 and 8 string versions, and they have a version for the neck pickup and a version for the bridge pickup, so you can buy them individually or as a set.

There are multiple designs and colours available for each pickup type, and some have their own exclusive finish, which can be found in addition to the basic options. Here are some examples of the different designs. Remember that each pickup is available with multiple designs, these images are just to show some options. All the images link to the product on Amazon.

At the time of writing this article, there are 25 models of humbucker pickups in the Bare Knuckle line-up. The range can be split into two divisions: the standard range, and the Boot Camp range. The standard range is the most premium, whilst the Boot Camp pickups offer a stripped-back and more affordable alternative.

Before we talk about the styles of music and tones they produce, here is a table to summarise them all.

Instead of going through each pickup individually, I’ve grouped them into the type of tone they produce, and made some key points to distinguish between the pickups in each group.

The groups are:

• Vintage: these have a lower output and suit lighter styles of music such as country, blues and rock. They work well in solid, semi-hollow and hollow body guitars.
• Vintage Hot: these have a medium-level output and work well for a wide variety of music styles, offering the most versatile tone. They work best in solid body guitars.
• Contemporary: these have the highest output and are most suited to metal and heavy rock. They are designed for solid body guitars.

There are five pickups which have a lower output vintage tone: Boot Camp Old Guard, Stormy Monday, PG Blues, The Mule and Riff Raff. They suit solid body, semi-hollow and hollow body electric guitars.

Here’s a description of the EQ of each pickup:

• Boot Camp Old Guard: boosted treble to give it a bright tone suited to country, blues and rock.
• Stormy Monday: scooped mid-range, loose low end and smooth upper end. Suited to blues, country, jazz, funk and classic rock.
• PG Blues: very scooped mid-range, smooth bass and treble. Suited to blues, country, jazz, funk and classic rock.
• The Mule: higher output than Stormy Monday and PG Blues. Balanced EQ with slight treble emphasis for a crisper tone. Very versatile and suits anything from blues and country to metal, but sits most comfortably in the classic rock genre.
• Riff Raff: tight bass frequencies and boosted treble and mids to give it a punchy tone. Suits blues, rock, punk and metal, but is less suited to country than the other pickups in the vintage category.

Vintage Hot

There are five pickups with medium output in the Vintage Hot category: Boot Camp True Grit, VHII, Black Dog, Emerald, and Abraxas. These pickups are well suited to all types of rock, blues and even some types of metal, and they work best on solid body guitars.

Here’s a brief description of the tone of each model:

• Boot Camp True Grit: very balanced EQ producing a neutral tone.
• VHII: balanced EQ with emphasis on the treble and mids slightly to add clarity.
• Black Dog: boosted mid-range and fairly even bass and treble for cutting leads.
• Emerald: balanced EQ with emphasis on the treble and mids slightly to add clarity.
• Abraxas: fairly flat EQ for a neutral tone.

Contemporary

This range is made up of the higher output and more aggressive pickups which are most suited to punk heavy rock and metal, and are made for solid body electric guitars.

Here’s a brief description of each model:

• Boot Camp Brute Force: balanced EQ with slightly boosted mids.
• Black Hawk: balanced EQ with slightly boosted mids and treble.
• Impulse: slightly scooped mids with even bass and treble.
• Rebel Yell: tight bass and balanced mids and treble.
• Cold Sweat: scooped mids and boosted treble.
• Aftermath: balanced EQ with slightly tightened bass.
• Crawler: focus on the mid range.
• Nailbomb: scooped mids and boosted treble.
• Juggernaut: boosted mids and slightly boosted bass.
• Silo: balanced EQ with slightly reduced treble.
• Holydiver: fairly balanced EQ with slightly boosted mids and tight bass.
• Painkiller: balanced EQ with slightly boosted mids and treble.
• Ragnarok: boosted mids and bass, reduced treble.
• Miracle Man: scooped mid-range and boosted treble.
• Warpig: balanced EQ with slightly boosted mids and bass.

Tone Examples

Here is a video demonstrating the tone of 4 different Bare Knuckle humbuckers in the bridge position.

Which Humbuckers are the Best?

So now we’ve taken a look at the passive humbucker range in some detail, you hopefully will have a bit more of an idea of which pickups are more suited to your style of music. Here are my top recommendations.

• Best for Country: Stormy Monday
• Best for Blues and Classic Rock: Riff Raff
• Most Versatile: The Mule
• Great for Lead: Rebel Yell
• Perfect for Metal: Warpig

These are just my opinions though, have a think about the kind of EQ balance and output you’re looking for to help you make your decision. Here is a table to summarise what guitars and music styles these pickups are best suited to, and the output rating.

Keep in mind that just because a pickup is listed as best suited for metal in the table, doesn’t mean you have to use it for metal. Also, you can put some pickups which are designed for a solid body guitar in a semi-hollow for example, or vice-versa. These are all just guidelines.

P90 Pickups

Now let’s take a look at the Bar Knuckle P90 range. P90 pickup offer solid outputs, but tend to be less warm than humbuckers, yet a bit fuller than single coils, offering the player a balanced and versatile tone.

There are 9 main pickups in the P90 range , 6 in the premium line-up and 3 in the more affordable, stripped-back Boot Camp range. Here is a quick table to summarise the magnets used. All pickups are currently only available in 6-string versions. You can purchase either the neck version or bridge version individually, or as a set.

Now let’s take a look at the EQ balance for each pickup.

To make things easier to compare each pickup, I’ve created another table to summarise the output, the styles of music each P90 pickup is suitable for and what type of guitar it works best in.

HSP90 Pickups

Bare Knuckle make a range of P90 pickups which are shaped like humbuckers.

This allows you to get those vintage P90 tones, but on a guitar which is designed to take humbucker pickups instead. There are 7 pickups in the range which all come in 6 and 7 string options. Here’s a table to summarise them.

They are voiced to sound like the P90 pickups we discussed in the previous section, so I won’t repeat myself here by going over their suitability for different music styles and the EQ balance again. The only new one is the Manhattan, which is the most “vintage” sounding, which uses alnico III magnets and is designed for jazz players primarily.

Stratocaster Pickups

Now onto the single coils. Bare Knuckle make single coils specifically voiced for Stratocasters and Telecasters, so let’s start with the Strat models.

There are 14 pickups designed for single coil Stratocasters, 11 of which are the premium models, and 3 of which are the Boot Camp models, offering stripped-back and more affordable options. Here is a quick table to summarise the magnets used in each model.

Now let’s take a look at the EQ balance of each pickup.

Here is a summary table to show the music style suitability, and output level of each pickup. Keep in mind that these are just guidelines and you can use any of the pickups for whatever music style you like, tone is just personal preference.

Telecaster Pickups

There are 13 single coil pickups in this range. The “Boot Camp” range offers stripped-back and more affordable options and consists of three models: Old Guard, True Grit and Brute Force.

Here is a table to show you the magnets used in each model. All models in the table below are available only in 6-string versions. You can purchase individually voiced neck and bridge pickups separately, or as a pair for all models except for the Cobra T which is a bridge-only pickup.

Bare Knuckle make two types of bass guitar pickups: the J Bass range (designed for the Jazz bass) and the P Bass range (designed for the Precision Bass). All the pickups are passive and use Alnico V magnets. The J Bass range has two models, and the P Bass range includes 4 models.

Here is a table to summarise the range.

Frequently Asked Questions

Here are the answers to some questions you might still have about Bare Knuckle pickups.

Are Bare Knuckle pickups active or passive?

All Bare Knuckle pickups current available are passive pickups. They do have some pickups with a high output designed to produce the high power and crisp tones of active pickups such as the Black Hawk, Aftermath, Ragnarok, Warpig and Painkiller humbuckers.

Where are Bare Knuckle pickups made?

Bare Knuckle guitar pickups are all made in the South West of England. All the pickups are made in-house and are hand-wound by a small team led by the founder, MD Tim Mills.

Which players use Bare Knuckle pickups?

Many famous guitarists have used or currently use Bare Knuckle pickups including Matt Bellamy, Steve Stevens, Johnny Marr, Mike Shinoda and Andy Sneap.

Which guitar brands use Bare Knuckle pickups?

Several electric guitar brands use Bare Knuckle pickups on their high end guitars including ESP, Ibanez and Manson.

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Rewind to 2003, and it's unlikely that Seymour Duncan had many sleepless nights over the arrival of Bare Knuckle Pickups.

Dreamed up by former Elkie Brooks guitarist and martial arts nut Tim Mills in frustration at the flat tone of his 70s Les Paul, the firm was born in a practice room, then graduated to a "freezing" coal-shed, before settling in 2006 at its current location: a cramped shed in rural Cornwall.

Even now, as it toasts a decade in the business, BKP employs just 12 staff, and as Tim admits, "we're all a bit squashed". As a back story, it hardly screams impending greatness.

And yet, from these inauspicious roots, BKP has grown into a true British success story, giving players a fistful of vintage-flavoured pickups to rival the old guard. Named and voiced after classic songs, units including the Warpig humbucker, Irish Tour single coil and Supermassive 90 P-90 all have their enthusiasts.

Granted, it doesn't hurt that BKP has the industry's most striking casing designs, which range from faux-rusted gunmetal to a rendering of 19th century pugilist Jimmy Carroll. But the main event is the jaw-dropping tone: the result of Tim's militant insistence on machining components in-house - from 50s-spec butyrate bobbins to nickel silver baseplates - and hand-wiring every unit.

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