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Where Are They Now? - Jerry Hardin
By StarTrek.com Staff
Jerry Hardin is a veteran character actor who’s made his mark on film, television and in the theater, amassing more than 150 film and television credits alone over the past six-plus decades. He’s probably most famous for his recurring role as the mysterious Deep Throat on The X-Files, while Star Trek fans remember him for playing Radue, leader of the child-snatching Aldeans in the first-season TNG hour “When the Bough Breaks,” Samuel Clemens/Mark Twain in the TNG two-parter “Time’s Arrow,” and Dr. Neria in “Emanations, a year-one Voyager adventure. Hardin, who will turn 81 this November, recently took some time to talk to StarTrek.com . In an exclusive interview, he recounted his Star Trek experiences, contemplated his favorite non-Trek credits and updated us on his current endeavors.
You were acting back when Star Trek: The Original Series was on. How aware of Star Trek were you and had you ever auditioned for roles on the old show
Star Trek was all the talk; brand-new sci-fi and timely as well. I hadn't auditioned for any roles that I can recall. In those days there were often several auditions a day and the survival mode was to do the best job you could and move on until there was job offer. Sometime later I met Gene Roddenberry and we enjoyed chatting with each other. He mentioned that I should be on his show and I agreed. Sure enough, shortly thereafter I got a call for an audition and did my first Star Trek (as Radue). Shooting the show was a pleasure and pretty straight forward; not a lot of sci-fi as I recall.
How did they think of you later on for the role of Samuel Clemens in the "Time's Arrow" two-parter, part one of which closed out season five and part of which opened the sixth season?
Mark Twain was the result of an audition. However, as we were shooting the first episode the line producer pulled me aside and said I should do a show of Mark Twain. I pointed out that Hal Holbrook might put out a contract on me, but the producer pointed out that he didn't own the material and there was a lot of material. Subsequently, Les (Landau), the director suggested the same thing to me. I was intrigued and between the two shoots I read a lot of Twain. And when we started to shoot the second show I announced that I was going put together a Twain evening. Les said he would direct it and we were off and running. We took it to Barter Theatre in Virginia to try it out. It started out with about 2/3 of a house and ended the week with lines outside the theater trying to get in. My show was and is called: Mark Twain: On Man and His World. I did the show off and on for about 15 years. Twain was always a pleasure to play.
Clemens' autobiography will be coming out this fall, per his wishes, 100 years after his death. Is that on your radar to read or no? If so, what are you most interested to learn about him... in his own words?
I'll be fascinated to see what the old boy thought about himself and his works. I have my own ideas, but the "horse's mouth" should be a kick.
You returned to the Trek fold three years later to play Dr. Neria in the Voyager episode "Emanations." First, how did that opportunity come about? And, 15 years later, what, if anything, still stands out about the experience of shooting the episode?
"Emanations" was, I think, a result of being on the lot doing some other show and they called me in to do their show. My most vivid memory from that show was all the equipment and weird names for the equipment and their functions. Since the words were constructs, it was a pain to keep them all straight.
A lot of Star Trek fans are still very appreciative of your performances on TNG and Voyager . When fans run into you on the street, which performance comes up most often? What kinds of questions do they ask?
Twain is perhaps the most-often remembered show for the fans, but I never cease to be amazed at the breadth of their knowledge of all the episodes. I've had them quote lines from "When the Bough Breaks" and ask me if they quoted it correctly! They seem shocked that I don't remember the lines.
What work -- stage, screen or TV -- are you personally most proud of?
The X-Files was one of the best shows for scripts and my character was particularly fun to work on. It was also the most extraordinary in that people all over the world recognized me from that show and during the first season most of us on the show thought it would not last beyond the season. It was like 88th in the ratings. Working on Broadway in The Rainmaker was a memorable experience for me, and stage was always my favorite medium anyway. Stage is really the actor's medium and the show belongs to you when the curtain goes up. It's just so hard to make a living just doing stage.
Lastly, personally and professionally, what do you have going on these days?
These days I spend a great deal of time sculpting. And I occasionally work as an actor when the opportunity comes along.
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Hardin: TNG Mark Twain Led To Own Show
Character actor Jerry Hardin, best known to Star Trek: The Next Generation fans for his role as Mark Twain in the two-part Time’s Arrow episodes, found that his The Next Generation role led to his own show about Twain.
Hardin was aware of the original series, but never had a chance to audition for it. “ Star Trek was all the talk; brand-new sci-fi and timely as well,” he said. “I hadn’t auditioned for any roles that I can recall. In those days there were often several auditions a day and the survival mode was to do the best job you could and move on until there was job offer.”
Getting the part of Mark Twain in the fifth season’s Time’s Arrow was the result of an audition. Hardin did so well in the first episode, it was recommended to him that he do a Mark Twain show of his own. “…As we were shooting the first episode the line producer pulled me aside and said I should do a show of Mark Twain. … “Subsequently, Les ( Landau ), the director suggested the same thing to me. I was intrigued and between the two shoots I read a lot of Twain. And when we started to shoot the second show I announced that I was going put together a Twain evening. Les said he would direct it and we were off and running. We took it to Barter Theatre in Virginia to try it out. It started out with about two-thirds of a house and ended the week with lines outside the theater trying to get in. My show was and is called: Mark Twain: On Man and His World . I did the show off and on for about 15 years. Twain was always a pleasure to play.”
Hardin returned to Trek where he appeared in Star Trek: Voyager as Dr. Neria in the first season’s Emanations . Hardin is also well-known to fans of The X-Files , where he was the mysterious Deep Throat.
What do you think? Chat with other fans in the Star Trek: Voyager forum at The Trek BBS .
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Star Trek: Voyager ended 20 years ago, which made it the franchise’s third consecutive series to run for seven seasons, following The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine . When the show came to a close, it marked the beginning of the end for a special era in Gene Roddenberry’s universe, which had flourished with the one-hour sci-fi dramas led by Captain Picard ( Patrick Stewart ) and Captain Sisko ( Avery Brooks) . Upon its debut in 1995 , Voyager ’s mission was to continue this success by introducing Captain Kathyrn Janeway ( Kate Mulgrew ), Star Trek ’s first series with a female lead actor.
When ET chatted with the cast of Voyager on set in 2001 amid filming the series finale, ‘Endgame,’ the ensemble revealed they were experiencing many of the same feelings behind the scenes as their counterparts on board the show’s Intrepid class starship. “We've had a couple days that were a little bittersweet,” Jeri Ryan , who stepped into the role of Seven of Nine at the start of Voyager ’s fourth season, told ET. “I've been with these people for four years and they've been together for seven. And you really do become like a family, because you see them more than your family.”
After having been stranded thousands of lightyears away from the Alpha quadrant, the ship’s crew of Starfleet officers and Maquis rebels had successfully banded together while they endured a bombardment of deadly obstacles throughout the journey home. And now, the time had come for actors and characters alike to bid farewell.
CHAOS ON THE BRIDGE
For seven years, the Voyager cast enjoyed a prime spot within an iconic pop culture franchise, one that also boasted an unprecedented fan movement that stretched across the globe. As they taped the show’s final moments, there was plenty of uncertainty at what the next chapter of their lives would look like in and outside of the Star Trek phenomenon. Ryan described the mood on set as “uncontrolled chaos.” For Voyager ’s lead star, it was a fascinating experience to witness first-hand.
“It's intriguing to me to watch this process,” Mulgrew told ET on set. She believed the entire cast was exhibiting the first of many emotional stages in a collective grieving process that would unfold over the coming weeks. “The first will be levity. Almost revelry.” “Acting out” and “lunacy” were some of her other predictions. “Because we do everything to avoid the sadness. We do everything in nature to argue against that.”
“It's like we've been out of show business [for seven years,]” Robert Duncan McNeill, who played cocky pilot Tom Paris, told ET. In the heyday of network television’s enormous episode orders (by today’s standards), he noted that Voyager ’s intense shooting schedule had left them without a standard hiatus break year after year. Filming between 24 to 26 full-hours of TV across each of its seven seasons meant they had practically been living on the Paramount Studios lot, with the occasional short drive to Griffith Park for location shoots . “And now we're coming back to the real world.”
“I'm not gonna miss this uniform,” Robert Beltran, who played Maquis rebel leader Chakotay, told ET. He followed this up by lifting his arms and demonstrating the costume’s limited range of motion. McNeill echoed Beltran’s comments. He said while the clothes are “plain and nondescript” and look “harmless,” audiences might not realize they’re also fitted to the actor, preventing even the most basic of bodily positions. “Crossing your legs is not that easy in these suits.”
“I won't miss the corset,” Ryan said with a laugh, referencing Seven’s trademark skintight clothes. When she reprised the role for Star Trek: Picard , the character’s look received a rugged style fashion upgrade. When speaking with ET in the lead up to Picard’s debut, Ryan referred to Seven’s former wardrobe as “the cat suit,” a nod to Michelle Pfeiffer ’s costume in Batman Returns.
Yet, amid these admissions of what they won’t miss about the job, a sense of melancholy couldn’t be avoided. It was not business as usual on set.
“The fact that they're knocking the sets down as we're finishing with them is giving us the idea that this is the last episode,” Robert Picardo told ET. (Yes, there were three ‘Robert's in this cast.) Before playing The Doctor, the ship’s medical hologram, Picardo was also a doctor across all three seasons of China Beach . The veteran actor gestured to a section of the set that had already been removed. He admitted, “It's kinda sad to see it all falling away around you.”
THE VOYAGE HOME
“Oh, the almighty Temporal Prime Directive. Take my advice: it's less of a headache if you just ignore it.” - Admiral Kathryn Janeway. Star Trek: Voyager, ‘Endgame.’
Voyager began with a promise. Despite all the odds stacked against them, Captain Janeway would, eventually, bring everyone home. With this objective hanging over every storyline and each season-long story arc, any creative direction for the show’s end ran the risk of coming off as anticlimactic. But Mulgrew was confident in how they would be saying goodbye.
“I feel pretty good about [the series finale.] I just finished reading part two,” said Mulgrew. “I think they did a wonderful job tying it up. Very unexpected. Very unpredictable.” The contents of Voyager ’s two-hour send off received additional security measures on set, which were already considerable throughout the show’s run.
“I don't know how it's gonna end,” said Ryan. “They're sending home scripts under armed guard practically.” Among the many benefits of being captain, apparently, was having access to the entire top secret script. As they were already in the midst of filming part one of the two-hour episode when chatting with ET, the cast still had a pretty good idea how the journey would end, even if they didn’t have the whole map just yet. Picardo joked, “I'm looking around under coats and hats around set trying to find someone with the second half.”
According to Ryan, these precautions extended to everyone behind the camera. She said, “[The crew] had no idea what was going on in the scenes that we were shooting [this morning.] They were shocked.”
“I think the audience will tune in thinking, ‘I've got this pretty well figured out.’ It'll be a game for most of them. They've calculated the odds against this. ‘What's going to happen to so and so?’ And I think they will find themselves unsettled by what, in fact, the writers have come up with,” said Mulgrew. “Which is profoundly clever and very moving.”
The first half of "Endgame" tracked two versions of the Voyager crew, one in the show's current time and the other 26 years in the future. In the latter, we learn our main characters have long since returned from their journey. But not everyone came back alive or without residual scars. Seven was killed in battle. Chakotay later died, which was hinted at being as a result of grief from her death. And Tuvok's ( Tim Russ ) illness, which required treatment starting years before Voyager eventually returned, had taken a heavy toll. Janeway, now a Starfleet admiral, decided to ignore Temporal Prime Directive guidelines and travel back in time to help her crew fast track their return to the Alpha quadrant.
To accomplish this, Admiral Janeway traveled back in time to find Voyager and teamed up with her past self. But the Janeways are faced with two (seemingly) mutually exclusive objectives: sneaking Voyager into a transwarp corridor that would drop them on Earth’s doorstep, or destroying the central hub of the Borg empire. In a display of her trademark determination, Captain Janeway posits: “There's got to be a way to have our cake and eat it, too.” Voyager ’s producers seemed to be after the same goal with ‘Endgame.’ While our central timeline ends and fades to black just as Voyager reaches Earth, and the show’s ultimate promise fulfilled, fans were still provided a glimpse of seeing what the characters’ future might resemble. Following The Next Generation ’s finale, which similarly showed trajectories for their core characters decades into the future, it was a tried and true storytelling approach in the franchise. Voyager ’s finale got to live in the moment and offer potential hints at what the future could bring for these characters.
“The end of the show is very much what I, personally, wanted the show to be at the end,” said McNeill. He praised the finale’s absence of “reunion” and full circle moments with their characters back on Earth. “It's really about our cast and our crew. And their relationships. And what they've brought back from the seven years journey. The connections that they have. The lessons that they learned that they'll never forget.”
Having read ahead of the class, Mulgrew told ET that the script had left her dreading shooting the final scene. “That will be a diabolical day for me. If I get through that, then I'm stronger than I think I am.”
THE NEXT GENERATIONS
“I think it'll truly hit me on the day that the new show premieres,” Garrett Wang told ET on set of the finale, who played Ensign Harry Kim, in reference to Star Trek: Enterprise ’s impending debut that fall. “Because then we are no longer the new kids on the block.” In a sense, the end of Voyager wrapped up a section of the Star Trek timeline that had become beloved by new generations of fans. Enterprise would take Trek back to the 22nd century, leaving few ties to the characters and events from this era.
At Voyager ’s finale party in April 2001, Mulgrew reflected on the impact Janeway had following her introduction six years and 70,000 lightyears ago. “I think it was bold,” Mulgrew told ET. “And I think that they made a timely and rather political move. A gesture that certainly I will never forget and I think [will culturally] serve as a great motivator for women.”
While the legacy of Captain Janeway has endured for two decades now, her journey continues. Mulgrew reprised the role for Star Trek: Prodigy , debuting on Paramount+ later this year. Taking place after the events of Voyager , the animated series follows a group of lawless teens who discover a derelict Starfleet ship, with Janeway appearing as the starship's built-in emergency training hologram.
"Captain Janeway was held to a different standard than her predecessors. She was asked to embody an inhuman level of perfection in order to be accepted as ‘good enough’ by the doubters, but showed them all what it means to be truly outstanding. We can think of no better captain to inspire the next generation of dreamers on Nickelodeon, than she," Star Trek executive producer Alex Kurtzman said when the series was announced in October.
“I have invested every scintilla of my being in Captain Janeway, and I can’t wait to endow her with nuance that I never did before in Star Trek: Prodigy ," Mulgrew said in a statement. "How thrilling to be able to introduce to these young minds an idea that has elevated the world for decades. To be at the helm again is going to be deeply gratifying in a new way for me.”
All 7 seasons of Star Trek: Voyager , as well as the first season of Star Trek: Picard , are streaming on Paramount+.
ET and Paramount+ are both subsidiaries of ViacomCBS.
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Who Plays Mark Twain On Star Trek?
If you call yourself a fan of "Star Trek: The Next Generation," you know the series boldly went where few Star Trek shows had before on the narrative front. The "TNG" creative team seemed to delight in dropping Captain Jean-Luc Picard and company into the wildest scenarios they could imagine. But it's safe to say one of their wildest arcs began in the time-traveling Season 5 finale, which finds the crew hanging out with famed author — and legendary curmudgeon — Samuel Clemens.
Of course, Clemens is better known by his pen name Mark Twain. During the second half of the 19th century, many considered him America's finest author. As it happens, the exceedingly well-read Picard is a fan of Twain's work, so the author finding his way onto the U.S.S. Enterprise in the two-part "Time's Arrow" arc is quite the event. The appearance was even more thrilling as veteran character actor Jerry Hardin is at his scene-stealing best in the role.
As for Twain's part in the story — which begins in the Season 5 finale and carries through the Season 6 premiere — he primarily plays the observer, with Hardin bringing a stately, wickedly intelligent presence to the proceedings. The actor's guest spot as Twain is regularly ranked among the series' best. The episode is also highly regarded, with some believing it's one of the best from any Star Trek show.
Hardin has a fascinating resume in his decades-long career
Jerry Hardin's celebrated two-episode turn as Mark Twain was not the first time he guest starred on "Star Trek: The Next Generation," as the actor also plays stubborn Aldean leader Radue in a Season 1 episode. Hardin was likely far more recognizable in that appearance since he wasn't decked out in full Twain regalia. There's little question you would've known him, as Hardin's face has been a regular fixture in the film and television realms for the past few decades.
Hardin made his first screen appearance in Robert Mitchum's beloved 1958 bootlegging thriller "Thunder Road." He spent the better part of the 1960s and '70s making a name for himself on the small screen with roles on hits series like "Ironside," "Gunsmoke," "Starsky & Hutch," "Little House on the Prairie," and "The Rockford Files," among dozens of others. He also landed a small part in Steven Spielberg's divisive World War I romp, "1941." The 1980s and '90s would see Hardin continuing to land roles at a staggering clip, with big screen highlights including "Reds," "Cujo," "Big Trouble in Little China," and "The Firm."
On the small screen, Hardin seemingly booked work for every significant series of each decade. But sci-fi devotees recognize the actor from one of his best-loved '90s gigs, playing the all-knowing Deep Throat in "The X-Files." Hardin slowed down considerably in the 2000s but still booked gigs on hits like "Nip/Tuck" and "The Middle." And in what may become a fitting career-capper, he's set to play Mark Twain again, this time for the upcoming movie "At the End of the Santa Fe Trail."
Lieutenant Mariner Wants Harry Kim’s Star Trek: Voyager Curse
Posted: November 13, 2023 | Last updated: November 13, 2023
- Lieutenant Beckett Mariner in Star Trek: Lower Decks season 4 wants to have Harry Kim's curse of being an eternal Ensign.
- Mariner, along with other main characters, got promoted to Lieutenant in Lower Decks season 4, but actively tried to reverse the promotion.
- While Mariner rejected promotion due to fear of sending friends to their deaths, it is unclear if Harry Kim will ever break his eternal Ensign curse in the Star Trek franchise.
Warning: This article contains SPOILERS for Star Trek: Lower Decks season 4 Star Trek: Lower Decks season 4 revealed that Lieutenant Beckett Mariner (Tawny Newsome) wants to have Harry Kim's (Garrett Wang) Star Trek: Voyager curse. Although there were many opportunities to give Harry a promotion during Voyager 's run, he remained a lowly Ensign during the USS Voyager's entire time in the Delta Quadrant. Harry also has yet to appear in any other franchise projects since Voyager ended, meaning his status as an "eternal Ensign" has never been corrected.
To add insult to injury, there are multiple Star Trek characters who were promoted faster than Harry Kim , including all four main characters on Lower Decks . During the season premiere of LD season 4, Mariner, Bradward Boimler (Jack Quaid), D'Vana Tendi (Noël Wells), and T'Lyn (Gabrielle Ruiz) were all promoted to Lieutenant, ironically after a mission that involved transporting the decommissioned USS Voyager back to Earth. While the other newly minted Lieutenants were thrilled with their new rank, a big part of Mariner's story in Lower Decks season 4 was her attempts to get her promotion reversed .
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Star Trek: Lower Decks’ Mariner Wants Harry Kim’s Voyager Curse
Mariner made it clear throughout Lower Decks season 4 that she had no interest in being a Lieutenant, and instead would have preferred to remain an Ensign just like Harry Kim. Although Lower Decks never referenced Harry's eternal Ensign curse in regard to Mariner, the term would have fit her perfectly prior to season 4 and was something she actively cultivated. While Harry would have liked nothing better than to finally receive a promotion, Mariner worked most of her Starfleet career to stay and Ensign, right up through Lower Decks' season 4 ending .
Mariner's self-sabotage during the season seemed to be an extension of her usual recklessness, but the Lower Decks season 4 finale revealed that there was actually a good reason behind it. After the death of her friend, Sito Jaxa (Shannon Fill), and her experiences during the Dominion War, Mariner rejected the idea of promotion entirely for fear of eventually having to be responsible for sending her friends to their deaths. Mariner's attitude towards Starfleet is the exact opposite of Harry Kim's, making it even more ironic that she seemingly can't keep herself from getting promoted while Harry can't manage it at all.
Will Harry Kim Return To Star Trek With A Promotion?
Although Mariner was able to work through some of her issues around promotion and accept her new rank, the Star Trek franchise has yet to reveal if Harry was ever able to break his eternal Ensign curse. The video game Star Trek Online featured Captain Harry Kim, but the character has yet to make his return to the main franchise in either animation or live-action. There were plans to bring Harry back as a Captain in the series finale of Star Trek: Picard , but due to time constraints and budgetary concerns, his scene was dropped from the final script.
However, the news that Star Trek: Prodigy has been picked up by Netflix has reignited hope that Harry can finally return to the franchise. Prodigy has already brought back multiple Voyager characters, and an oblique reference by Garrett Wang to the fact that Harry " belongs " in Prodigy signaled the strong possibility of him at least making a cameo in the show. If that is the case, it's hard to imagine that Harry won't return with a promotion, given how famous his lack of one has become. Although Star Trek: Lower Decks demonstrated that some characters actually want eternal Ensign status, it's past time for Harry to leave that title behind.
Star Trek: Lower Decks season 4 is available to stream on Paramount+.
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